Romans 5:7-9

For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die—but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.

Friday, October 3, 2008

Further Questions for Dispensationalists - VIII

In light of some of the content of my past few posts, I would like to present a few quotes from J. N. Darby.  Not the only voice hailing from what we refer to as the "brethren" movement, but likely the most known.  The following quotes are all taken from "The Notion of a Clergyman, dispensationally the sin against the Holy Spirit".  We must note here that, in large measure, his definition of "clergyman" was made in the historical context of a battle against "Puseyism", or "Tractarianism", which was, according to the definition given the term by Merriam-Webster, "a system of High Church principles set forth in a series of tracts at Oxford (1833-41)".  Even so, Darby is helpful in manifesting his distaste really for any form of ecclesiastical authority.

Again (to use a couple metaphors with sharp tools) I'm not trying to "grind an axe", or "bury the hatchet", but in my attempt to understand Dispensationalism more fully, I am trying to step into the shoes of those who took part in its historical development and evolution.  In the process of this research, I have seen several tangential theologies, philosophies, and practices that have caught my attention: a neglect of historical theology and its categories, a rejection of Calvinistic & and Reformed theology, and as we shall see, a general disregard for the distinction between layman and elder/pastor (to put it in the categories we recognize today).  So, if there are any dispensationalists reading this article, the questions are, what do you make of these quotes, do you think that Dispensationalism is inherently non-Calvinistic, individualistic in its polity, and largely uninterested in historical theology and its bearing on how we form our own theology?

"It is a question of the dispensational standing of the church in the world - a statement that that depends wholly on the power and presence of the Holy Ghost, and that the notion of a clergyman contradicts His title and power, on which the standing of the church down here depends. It is the habitation of God through the Spirit. Scripture is clear, that if the Gentiles do not abide in God's goodness, they will be cut off like the Jews. It equally predicts a falling away, which is not continuing in God's goodness. I believe these times are hasting greatly."
"I must be observed here to say nothing whatever against offices in the church of Christ, and the exercise of authority in them, whether episcopal or evangelical in character. It were a vain and unnecessary work here to prove the recognition of that on which scripture is so plain. But they are spoken of in Scripture as gifts derived from on high: "He gave some apostles" (Eph. 4: 5, 7, 11); so in 1 Corinthians 12, they are known only as gifts. My objection to the notion of a Clergyman is, that it substitutes something in the place of all these, which cannot be said to be of God at all, and is not found in Scripture. Now, I believe the whole principle of this to be contained in this dispensation in the word clergyman, and that this is the necessary root of that denial of the Holy Ghost which must, from the nature of the dispensation, end in its dissolution… But if clergymen have the exclusive privilege of preaching, teaching, and ministering communion, which they claim, and which is the very sense and meaning of their distinctive title, then must it be all evil. That is, the notion of a Clergyman necessarily involves the charge of evil on the work of the Holy Ghost, and therefore, I say, that the notion of a Clergyman involves the dispensation, where insisted upon, in the sin against the Holy Ghost."
"Sinners are converted to God, souls called out of darkness, the truth preached with energy and love to souls, with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven, in the constraint and constancy (in whatever weakness) of the Redeemer's love: men are gathered from evil and wickedness (for I will put the fullest case my adversaries could wish) into the communion of the Lord's love, to bear witness to their sole dependence on His dying love; and this is producing confusion and schism - of which God is not the author, but Satan - because they are not, nor are brought together by, clergymen! What is this but to charge the work of divine grace with proceeding from, and having the character of, the author of evil, which is blasphemy? and this is the immediate and direct effect, the necessary effect, of the notion - the exclusive notion of a Clergyman."
"And let us for a moment look at what the word means, and we shall very remarkably find the same great characteristic mark of apostasy upon it: the substitution of a privileged order whom man owned for the Church which God owned, and the consequent depression of the Church and the despisal of the Holy Ghost in it, or blasphemy against it. What does clergy mean? It means in scripture the elect body, or rather bodies, of believers, as God's heritage, as contrasted with those who were instructors, or had spiritual oversight over them; and it is used in the place where the apostle warns such against ever assuming the place in which - in much worse than which - the ministers have now put themselves; for they are not merely lords over, but the whole cleroi themselves. The present use of the word is precisely the sign of the substitution of ministers in the place of the Church of God: as men are accustomed to speak of "going into the church." Now, all this is of the essence of apostasy: power attached to ministry, and its becoming the church in the eye of the world, so that the world can save itself the trouble of being religious by throwing it on the clergy, and so the church and the world be all one thing, and irreligious people do for the church as laity, because religion is the clergy's business, and, if theirs, nobody's (for they do not want it for irreligious laymen); and thus that which has the name of the church, being really the world, serves to exclude and set aside the operations of the Spirit of God in His children as schism and evil; and who is to decide? The church; but they are the world: and will the world ever receive the Spirit of God? It cannot. What then? They hold themselves, of course, the church; they have the clergy, which is God's church in their estimation; and the Spirit of God and His work is voted schismatic. Such is the real and simple meaning of the word clergy so used. But to produce the passage in Scripture - "Be not lords," says Peter, "over God's heritage," to the elders or instructors. That is, over God's Clergy - to give it in its English form of letters, cleroi. The bodies of Christian believers were called God's "lots" (the meaning of the original word cleros) answering to Deuteronomy 9: 29. Now the clergy have assumed to themselves to be God's lot only, but the only use of clergy in Scripture is, as applied to the laity if you please, contrasted with ministers: charging these to assume no lordship."
"The operation of the Reformation was to introduce a statement of individual faith, and to break off, generally, all without the limits of the Roman Empire, from the immediate power of Rome and Popery. It in no way separated the church from the world, but the contrary; and, while it changed the relations, left the principle of the structure just where it was. The King's Arms took the place, in the rood-loft, of the image of Christ. Christ and His Spirit ruled in neither case, save in honour. I verily believe, that the principle of a clergyman, as it is part and parcel of the structure of Popery, will reintroduce the power of Popery as far as the name of religion remains; for as it hangs on the doctrine and principle of succession, not on the presence of the Spirit, there is no ground on which a Protestant minister, as a clergyman, can prove his title, which does not validate the title of the Pope and his followers more even than his own."

4 comments:

Kerry Lewis said...

Well, I'm not a dispensationalist, but I have a couple of thoughts (again).

It's true that the Plymouth Brethren and the Tractarians overlap time wise. But properly speaking, Tractarianism didn't begin until about 1833, whereas the Brethren had begun meeting by 1828. Darby had met with them by that time, but officially resigned from the priesthood by 1829 and rejoined the Brethren. So Darby's first experience with clergy that he was basing his response on was during his time in the priesthood, prior to the beginning of Anglo-Catholicism. And certainly, there was a resurgence of interest in pre-Reformation thought in the 18th century, and so there were some Roman-influenced Anglican priests at the time. But there is a sense in which there were remaining elements of Romanism that had never been excised from Anglicanism since the Reformation.

So maybe Anglo-Catholicism was part of what Darby was responding to. He wrote the tract sometime after Tractarianism had begun. But he included the German Church in the tract, and mentioned the Protestant churches specifically as being violators of what he was criticizing, so Tractarianism couldn't have been all that he was talking about. In fact, having read the tract and knowing Brethren thought, I don't think Darby was responding to Anglo-Catholicism at all. He was opposing the clergy-laity distinction and its companion, as he saw it, denominationalism, as Plymouth Brethren always have. Darby is opposing the idea of a separate class of Christians, the Clergy, in whom resides control over the preaching and teaching of the Word, and the administration of the sacraments. He saw the clergy as setting themselves up in the place of the Holy Spirit. If the Holy Spirit is confined to working through the clergy, and one denomination has it right, whereas other denominations don't, then any work one might attribute to the Holy Spirit outside of that denomination (such as Holy Communion) must be attributed to Satan instead. Herein lies the blasphemy he speaks of. He repeatedly criticized what he saw as the impiety of the clergy, suggesting to me that he was actually attacking Liberalism (since he specifically mentioned Germany instead of, say, Holland), which had been in full swing in some portions of the church by now. Also, Darby is quite opposed to the idea of a national church, an opposition that is standing in the background and peeking its head out every now and then here.

Darby wasn't opposed to all authority in the church. The Brethren exercised church discipline in their assemblies, and Darby was often at the forefront of those situations. But there is no clergy in the Brethren, as they see it. This is manifest in the tract where Darby says he isn't opposed to offices in the church per se. But all offices for the Brethren are lay offices, as we would call them. There is no clergy. In other words, no one is salaried, and they aren't considered to "hold the keys", as we would say. And so that is what Darby is opposing in the Established Church.

Anyway, that's the way I'm reading this. Let me know if you think I'm missing something here. Darby is notoriously unclear in his writing. He always wrote in a rather hurried fashion, and he never edited anything he wrote before publication. Hence, the lack of clarity.

jason payton said...

Thanks Kerry,

This is exactly the type of accountability I want as I criticize someone's position...especially being separated by 150 years of time, lack of experience within the movement itself, and (as you said) a lack of clarity in the documents I'm reading. Btw, were these articles originally written in English?

I need to hear when I have over-looked occurrences that contradict my conclusions, such as my conclusion that Darby (Brethren by extension) had a distaste for church authority of any form. I may have overstated my case. I should just have observed that Darby disagreed with the clergy/laity distinction. My mention of "Tractarianism" really was an attempt to establish a historical reason behind Darby's opinion, but (based on your historical info) I believe I read into his motives something that wasn't there.

You mentioned that Darby wasn't against church offices per se, alluding to his statement where he mentions only the office of apostle. I did take note that he didn't mention elder/pastor/bishop or deacon, and I wonder if there is anything to that.

Thanks again for the insight, and please keep reviewing my posts as you have time...it has been extremely helpful.

Btw, how's the house, and your mom?

Kerry Lewis said...

They were written in English, so far as I know. If he ever wrote in any other language, I'm not aware of it. He did spend some time ministering in France, so he might have written in French at some point as well.

We got a new door installed, so we're beginning to feel safe again, I think. It's been a hard week for this and other reasons, though, so your prayers are still appreciated.

I'll keep checking here, and offer my thoughts as I have opportunity (and, hopefully, as I know what I'm talking about). Glad to be of help.

I have some thoughts on the pastor etc. question, but I'll have to get back to you on that in a day or so.

Kerry Lewis said...

To quote the Mad Hatter, "I'm late! I'm late!" Here, in a few words, is what I had intended to post last week.

According to Brethren biographer Robert Baylis, Darby traveled through Continental Europe between 1839 and 1845. He was fluent in French, German, and Italian, and so he was able to travel and move among the various countries fairly easily. According to Wikipedia, he translated the Bible into French and German. Whether or not he wrote in any language other than English, however, I still don't know.

In Darby's tract, as I remember, he did mention "pastors" in a favourable way, but I would guess that he was using the term as synonymous with "elder", which for him would carry the idea of lay offices only.

Between what is called the Open Brethren and what is called the Closed or Exclusive Brethren, however, there have been differences. (There are even differences between the Closed and the Exclusive Brethren for some - at least, in the way they use the terms. Generally, however, my understanding is that the terms "Closed" and "Exclusive" refer to the same type of Brethren. So that is how I'm using them here.) If I showed up at an Open Brethren assembly this Sunday (such as Shannon Hills in Greensboro, which I attended growing up), I could partake of worship and the Lord's Supper, so long as I professed faith in Jesus Christ, whether or not I held to the principles uniquely held by the Brethren. With the Exclusives, however, you not only have to be in fellowship with a Brethren assembly in order to participate in worship, you have to be in fellowship with an accepted Closed Brethren assembly. They actually have two sets of chairs set up in an Exclusive Brethren meeting hall. The inner circle is for those who are Exclusives and able to participate (not under church discipline, etc.). The outer circle is for those who, for whatever reason, aren't allowed to participate. They are allowed to observe only. (There was a great low-budget film put out this past Spring by Paramount Vantage called Son of Rambow. It's about an Exclusive Brethren boy in England and the trials he has trying to balance his life with the Brethren and his life with those outside of the Brethren. The treatment of the Exclusives is slightly exaggerated, but not much, and it captures the spirit of the movement - the Opens, but especially the Exclusives - very well. It was my favourite movie this year. See it, if you get a chance. It's on dvd now. I saw it at the Carousel Grande when it was playing.)

The Exclusive or Closed Brethren usually utilize the phrase "Gospel Hall" in their assembly names (such as "Hickory Gospel Hall", which actually exists in Hickory, N. C.). The Open Brethren usually utilize the phrase "Chapel" or "Bible Chapel" in their assembly names (as in "Shannon Hills Bible Chapel").

The Closed Brethren descend from Darby. The Open Brethren descend from leaders like George Mueller and Anthony Norris Groves. Of course, there have been splits and variations since then, and these started within just a few years of the movement, the first split being between the Open and the Closed Brethren.

Among the Open Brethren, the form of church government is Independency for each assembly, and each assembly is ruled by a body of elders and deacons, whose roles operate largely after the manner of Presbyterianism. But there was a variation on this that happened among the Exclusives. In 1838, they began holding a meeting every Saturday night composed of leaders from the various Closed assemblies in and around London. The stated intention was to help smaller assemblies in matters of policy and administration. But the practical effect was the creation of a central ruling body, that claimed for itself enough power to discipline members and bar them from the Lord's Table. We would call that a Presbytery, though they wouldn't appreciate us using such a label for them, and their meeting assumed more power to itself than any well-working Presbytery would in Reformed churches. Also, Darby ended up being a sort of default leader for the group, and so they ended up with what we would call a Bishopric or Episcopacy, though they once again wouldn't appreciate us accusing them of this. So Darby went full circle, leaving Episcopacy and ending up there again. The end results of this screwy system is legend, and I couldn't begin to talk about them here.

If you want some other interesting thoughts on the Brethren view of church government, you might check out my brief post from a couple of years ago here:

http://hymnusdeo.blogspot.com/2006/12/exclusive-brethren-elders.html